| 1) by JakeElwood [05/17/07 09:16:51 AM] |
FIRST - and I'm stumped |
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| 2) by DocRosa [05/17/07 11:11:52 AM] |
Simple... the blades are moving at the same speed
as the frame rate of the camera giving the impress
ion that the blades aren't turning when in fact th
ey are.
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| 3) by JakeElwood [05/17/07 11:43:46 AM] |
never thought that effect could look so clean - sw
eet
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| 4) by sparkbutt165 [05/17/07 11:46:41 AM] |
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| 5) by joeljoeljoel [05/17/07 02:03:50 PM] |
It can fly because its not a helicopter its a herr
ier fighter jet in disgise...god some people are d
umb. lol
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| 6) by joeljoeljoel [05/17/07 02:04:50 PM] |
lol i spelled disguise wrong |
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| 7) by joeljoeljoel [05/17/07 02:06:27 PM] |
look at the wings.... helicopters dont have wings |
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| 8) by diego1103 [05/17/07 02:18:36 PM] |
lmao its so obvious. all of you are wrong. its n
ot the frame rate of the camera its that the copte
r is free falling. thats why the camera man never
zooms out. lol its just to give the illusion that
its floating but its actually just free falling.
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| 9) by diego1103 [05/17/07 02:19:41 PM] |
also notice how the blades bend upwards due to the
wind resistance from falling.
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| 10) by joesnose [05/17/07 02:26:10 PM] |
helicopter freefall causes the blades to spin! the
y aren't spinning, im with the disguise option, lo
l
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| 11) by J.B. [05/17/07 02:26:35 PM] |
DocRosa is right, the frame rate or film speed of
the video camera has been put in sync with the rot
ation of the helicopter's blades. Most of us have
seen this demo in science class with a standard st
robe light and a table fan. Just adjust the strobe
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| 12) by joeljoeljoel [05/17/07 02:43:33 PM] |
diego ur a retard!!! |
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| 13) by Roofus [05/17/07 04:16:23 PM] |
It cant be free falling because the camera man poi
nts the camera up at one point and the chopper hov
ers too.
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| 14) by bbbaalll [05/17/07 06:58:30 PM] |
holy shit |
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| 15) by Breeeeeze Nutz [05/17/07 07:00:26 PM] |
I agree with the frame rate discussion. That chop
per is making a lot of noise just to be that blade
on the tail, which is not spinning nearly fast en
ough to make that much noise.
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| 16) by Breeeeeze Nutz [05/17/07 07:02:08 PM] |
My ceiling fan has more rpms than the tail blade a
ppears to have, there is no way that bird would tu
rn without power from the tail. So fps = rps of t
he blades.
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| 17) by dylan [05/17/07 07:55:47 PM] |
ha ha im not going to bother lol... |
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| 18) by thfrbiddn1 [05/17/07 08:06:04 PM] |
if the copter was free falling how could it steer
like that?
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| 19) by M.T. [05/17/07 10:41:34 PM] |
Guys.. lol Military choppers like that one have je
t engines on both sides on the chassis that they c
an turn on in case of a blade malfunction. they ar
e just showing how well they can fly with jet prop
ulsion alone. Thats also why it has wings, for sta
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| 20) by Boshy [05/18/07 03:37:28 AM] |
It flies The same way a Harrier Jump jet flies...e
xhaust turbo gasses...
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| 21) by Mr. Keul [05/18/07 06:10:51 AM] |
Please...those "wings" are the props tha
t hold sidewinders. What do you think they use to
attack with? Colorful language? Feather duster? Th
e frame rate is the same as the revolution rate, s
imple as that. Thats why, in film, you see wheels
that look
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| 22) by Mr. Keul [05/18/07 06:13:48 AM] |
like they're rotating backwards, because the frame
rate is faster than the revolution rate. Actually
, I changed my mind, it has harrier jets in additi
on to the rotors, because that's a great use of mi
litary funding.
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| 23) by JakeElwood [05/18/07 08:18:41 AM] |
OMG INVISIBLE VTOL JETS!!1! |
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| 24) by M.T. [05/18/07 01:42:54 PM] |
Mr.Keul those "wings" aren't just for ho
lding armaments. They play a large part in stabili
ty with those type of choppers. To say otherwise i
s complete ignorance to physics.
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| 25) by M.T. [05/18/07 01:45:32 PM] |
LOOK under the top blades on the left and right si
de of the helo and you will see Jet turbines on bo
th sides. If you look up the whole video on this w
hen they show the crowd at this airshow the people
would be choppy if the cameras frame rate was mes
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| 26) by Duckmurderer [05/18/07 04:25:22 PM] |
M.T. do you have speakers or headphones? No jet pr
opulsion can create the intense vibrations to make
the common "fap fap fap fap" sound that
the blades of a helo can.
You can actually cle
arly hear what it would sound like if the blades w
ere not sp
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| 27) by Roofus [05/18/07 04:25:42 PM] |
I think we should all listen to M.T. because he kn
ows about physics, it would be complete ignorance
not to.
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| 28) by Duckmurderer [05/18/07 04:25:54 PM] |
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| 29) by Duckmurderer [05/18/07 04:26:43 PM] |
*spinning becuase the engine model is a jet-turbin
e.
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| 30) by DreadGunner [05/19/07 12:34:35 AM] |
This type of helicopter is a MI-24. though I canno
t tell the version would guess it is simply a Hind
E. To the best of my knowledge they get no thrus
t from jet engines but they do get a bit less than
28% of their lift from those wings.
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| 31) by DreadGunner [05/19/07 12:35:00 AM] |
They are primarily a weapons platform. The Blades
angle up in flight, think about it.
The rear bl
ades turn faster than the main rotor blades, so as
the main rotor would appear to be fixed, the rear
rotor would continue to appear to move, but slowe
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| 32) by Hard Cheese [05/19/07 05:00:33 AM] |
Whats it flying on! |
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| 33) by M.T. [05/19/07 04:50:35 PM] |
Now I'm sick of all of you. This helo is a MI-24 H
IND go to http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ro
w/mi-24.htm
go down to engines it HAS A JET TURBI
NE!!!!!
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| 34) by M.T. [05/19/07 04:51:48 PM] |
Heres a pic of the turbine:
http://www.fas.org/ma
n/dod-101/sys/ac/row/ru_monino_helo_mi24b_04.jpg
Mr. Keul, Duckmurderer kiss my ass.
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| 35) by M.T. [05/19/07 04:55:40 PM] |
Oh yea.. by the way Duckmurderer take another seco
nd to listen to this clip and you will here a jet
engine not the sound of a main blade. the "fa
p fap fap" sound you here is from the rear ro
tor blade.
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| 36) by M.T. [05/19/07 05:35:00 PM] |
However, since I'm not going to stand and say my t
heory is 100% the truth I realize if someone had a
good enough camera with a fast shutter speed it i
s possible to do this effect so who really knows.
All I know is that after all these posts I really
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| 37) by Ruphy [05/20/07 02:24:00 AM] |
it's falling. trust me, im better than you. |
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| 38) by DocRosa [05/20/07 03:00:20 AM] |
I've got your back from now on "J.B.!" |
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| 39) by diego1103 [05/20/07 11:00:00 AM] |
i agree with you Ruphy, and joel go fuck yourself
your probably a 35 year old computer geek still li
ving with his mom.
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| 40) by Mark S. [05/20/07 11:14:53 PM] |
What the hell is wrong you people!?! Yes, the HIND
does have two turbine engines. Two GAS TURBINE en
gines! Even the M1-Abrams tank has a gas turbine e
ngine. The turbines power are directed to the roto
rs through axles but don't directly provide thrust
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| 41) by DreadGunner [05/21/07 12:05:39 AM] |
Mark S... you beet me to it and used the same exam
ple I was going to use. No lift from the jet turbi
ne outside of the main rotors
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| 42) by DreadGunner [05/21/07 12:07:42 AM] |
oh, the rear blades do not create a fap fap fap...
the only one that has rear rotors that creat that
sound is the CH47 and that is because they are the
same as the frount
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| 43) by Mr. Keul [05/21/07 06:22:17 AM] |
M.T., you need to chillax man. Its just friendly d
ebate. Besides, Mark S. is right, the turbines you
see provide power to the rotors, not direct thrus
t (they would need to point down, opposite to the
force of gravity) Mr. Physics.
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| 44) by Mr. Keul [05/21/07 06:31:32 AM] |
And yes, the "wings" can provide lift (a
nd stabilization), but not if the chopper's hoveri
ng (see bernoulli's principle). the reason the tai
l rotors move so slow is the same reason the main
ones don't move at all, the fps of the camera
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| 45) by JakeElwood [05/21/07 08:05:13 AM] |
I think I get it now. Mark S. is telling us that t
he M1-Abrams tank can fly. (kidding, don't shoot m
e)
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| 46) by night ninja [05/22/07 01:05:55 PM] |
I can see 7 things on it that could be jet turbine
s. I would go with M.T. And it is very funny readi
ng your arguments.
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| 47) by JakeElwood [05/23/07 07:16:11 AM] |
I think we should ignore all the engineers and def
ense contractors we've heard from so far.
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| 48) by Spraggz [05/23/07 11:17:09 AM] |
haha...i can see 7 things on it that could indicat
e its a robot in disguise. Though I think I'll go
with occam's razor and a little common sense. Sorr
y B.L.T., but you're really reaching...
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| 49) by DreadGunner [05/23/07 12:55:35 PM] |
is this a transformer? If we give the video a bit
longer to run, will it turn into a large robot?
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| 50) by JakeElwood [05/23/07 01:16:10 PM] |
This video is a fake. It was shot at great expense
on a soundstage in Burbank, CA using models and a
green screen, with a soundtrack to suggest that t
he rotors are turning when in fact they are not. A
ll this was done for no reason other than to confu
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| 51) by JakeElwood [05/23/07 01:16:59 PM] |
se visitors to this site. |
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| 52) by kevin [05/31/07 10:24:07 AM] |
the_real_kevin u are such an idiot to have that ni
ck name
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| 53) by MissionPilot [06/3/07 07:41:34 PM] |
I am a video pro. Shot footage at an airshow last
week. Got the same effect on all propeller driven
aircraft. Bottom line, when the video frame rate i
s a multiple of the propeller's RPM, it appears to
stp. Case closed.
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| 54) by SaS [06/13/07 08:47:31 AM] |
It's either the frame rate isnt high enough on the
camera, so seemingly it is no moving, or, if you
look closely there is some sort of jet on the bell
y of the helicopter, which could be similar to tha
t a harrier has - it can take off vertically.
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| 55) by tkilljoy [06/13/07 03:51:12 PM] |
Ok, as someone who went to college for Aerospace T
heory, comes from a full line family of pilots and
what not.. lets clear the air.
This is a frame
rate trick of the camera, you can do this with any
home computer or blind luck. if we go with blind
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| 56) by tkilljoy [06/13/07 03:51:41 PM] |
blind luck, its the simple fact the helicopter mai
ntains RPM rates on the rotors that induce this ef
fect.. i do think its odd the pilot would use a st
eady rpm rate, but the HIND M24 is an incredibly c
apable machine.
M.T. is beyond wrong though, th
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| 57) by tkilljoy [06/13/07 03:52:02 PM] |
blind luck, its the simple fact the helicopter mai
ntains RPM rates on the rotors that induce this ef
fect.. i do think its odd the pilot would use a st
eady rpm rate, but the HIND M24 is an incredibly c
apable machine.
M.T. is beyond wrong though, th
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| 58) by tkilljoy [06/13/07 03:52:35 PM] |
though, the jet "ports" visible on the
chopper, for anyone who's had the common sense and
an aviation museum handy, do not point in any way
that would provide adequate thrust, especially si
nce they're straightline exhaust ducts with no sor
t of contr
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| 59) by tkilljoy [06/13/07 03:53:03 PM] |
control surfaces (like all propulsionary jet engin
es have, go look at any military or civilian jet a
ircraft.) and infact, standing directly under the
path of those exhaust ports won't shove you around
with monsterous wind force, it'll just make you s
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| 60) by tkilljoy [06/13/07 03:53:31 PM] |
sweaty from the heat.
the wings are armament de
signs, someone mentioned it earlier: bernoulli's p
rinciple renders those wings useless in hover situ
ations, and they're a marginally small disadvantag
e in direct vertical ascents and descents, but the
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| 61) by tkilljoy [06/13/07 03:54:09 PM] |
they lack the necessary amount of vacuum generati
on surface or control surface to manage the choppe
r on its own.
combinining the wings and the exh
aust ports of the jet engines couldn't even get th
is chopper off the ground, i'd be amused if it eve
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| 62) by tkilljoy [06/13/07 03:55:14 PM] |
even managed to bounce on its struts using the exh
aust only.
visually, the amount of motion this
chopper is undertaking would cause quite a bit of
visual blade rotation if the blades were simply no
t in use (as well, during ascent, they would not b
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| 63) by tkilljoy [06/13/07 03:55:39 PM] |
bow upwards at the outer edges but downwards under
their own weight)
remember, this is a monstero
usly heavy helictoper. sorry bout that double post
in the middle!
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| 64) by JakeElwood [06/14/07 06:23:19 AM] |
Thanks tkilljoy (I think this site needs a longer
comment field length. I also think that posting in
this thread should be mandatory for all members)
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| 65) by EHadley [06/14/07 05:00:01 PM] |
What we have here is a military experiment using t
elekinesis to levitate, then fly this helicopter.
Simple as that. I don't buy something as simple
as frame-rates.lol
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| 66) by J.B. [06/14/07 08:30:11 PM] |
Look morons , it is the fucking frame rate. Don'
t believe me, look at the rotational speed of the
tail rotor. It also appears to move very slowly be
cause it's speed is slightly different than that o
f the main rotor.
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| 67) by DreadGunner [06/14/07 11:21:00 PM] |
didn't I say that? |
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| 68) by M.T. [06/15/07 09:41:40 PM] |
LMFAO at this entire post. Never thought my post w
ould cause such a funny ass response from everyone
xDDD
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| 69) by M.T. [06/15/07 09:46:02 PM] |
By the way... no sh*& the chopper can't fly wi
thout its rotor. I was merely trying to piss off a
ll of you that went to college for Aerospace theor
y xDDDDDDDDD
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| 70) by JakeElwood [06/18/07 10:02:11 AM] |
Sure thing M.T., you didn't mean any of your previ
ous posts. We believe you.
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| 71) by Dark_Griffer [06/19/07 05:48:04 PM] |
Come on no one ever thought that there might be an
updraft? Friggin idiots
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| 72) by XxDefaultxX [06/20/07 02:37:27 PM] |
the frame reate is the same you can hear the rotor
s!!!!!
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| 73) by XxDefaultxX [06/20/07 02:37:38 PM] |
rate* |
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| 74) by Raychel [06/21/07 06:27:53 PM] |
M.T. is correct, as I quote,"Military chopper
s like that one have jet engines on both sides on
the chassis that they can turn on in case of a bla
de malfunction." My husband is in 101st Airbo
rne for the US Army and works on these things for
a living,
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| 75) by Raychel [06/21/07 06:36:19 PM] |
By the way, wow on the discussion. |
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| 76) by JakeElwood [06/22/07 07:18:15 AM] |
Damn, just when I thought I'd heard it all. Thanks
Raychel.
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| 77) by brianmann [06/25/07 09:56:22 PM] |
My god,your all such fools. The helicopter was pos
ed for each shot in the whole sequence. kinda like
claymation. They just used studio max or somethin
gs. Maybe photoshop. I once did one of a complete
city skyline with time lapse phtography and posed
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| 78) by brianmann [06/25/07 09:57:13 PM] |
the sun for each frame. it was a little hot so I u
sed baking mitts.
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| 79) by claresey1 [06/29/07 04:25:58 AM] |
For fu**s sake, its a toy helicopter on a bit of s
tring...Most of you lot are a weeee bit stupid no?
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| 80) by Monkey [07/1/07 09:32:39 PM] |
close, claresey1... the helicopter in the clip is
connected to another helicopter by cable (which is
just thin enough not to be seen in this clip). Th
e downdraft of the other helicopter is even causin
g the tail rotor to rotate.
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| 81) by JPL [07/6/07 10:08:35 AM] |
OK IDIOTS.
IF YOU SAID Frame rates cause the roto
rs to look still, YOU ARE CORRECT. if you said JET
engines are providing thrust
YOU ARE WRONG. end
of story.
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| 82) by Rage Kage [07/7/07 12:15:21 AM] |
Man, some of you must be retarded. It has nothing
to do with the framerate of the camera, you can t
ell because the blades would still appear to rotat
e very slowly, here they are clearly fixed. The he
licopter does have turbine engines, but they do no
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| 83) by JohnnyFlies99 [07/7/07 08:27:00 PM] |
Fellas, I just happen to be a military pilot and e
ngineer. The camera-man got damn lucky with the fr
amerate--maybe unlucky--because it ends-up looking
a bit awkward. The winglets do produce lift, but
only during forward motion of the aircraft... the
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| 84) by JohnnyFlies99 [07/7/07 08:27:30 PM] |
they also help stabilize...more importantly, they
hold fuel and hang weapons and sensors. The rear
tail rotor appears to move because it doesn't have
a 1-1 or 1..nX ratio on the gears with the main r
otor (or jet engine powering the whole thing for t
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| 85) by JohnnyFlies99 [07/7/07 08:28:10 PM] |
that matter). So, if your camera synchs the back
rotor, the main rotor appears to rotate, and vice-
a-versa. The sound is prop-wash, and a bit of jet
. Jet's that actually produce significant thrust
will whine... not what you hear here. Some choppe
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| 86) by JohnnyFlies99 [07/7/07 08:28:33 PM] |
Some choppers will use a bit of the exhaust to hel
p push the aircraft forward - but no vectored thru
st that I know of. Pilots don't generally control
altitude with blade rpm, but instead with power a
nd blade pitch (via the collective)... which is wh
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| 87) by JohnnyFlies99 [07/7/07 08:28:56 PM] |
which is why you don't see a change in the rpm. R
PM stays fixed in many/most situations. The solid
rpm of what you see in the video is testament to
the damn good engineering of this particular aircr
aft. It is not in freefall, either. If it was, y
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| 88) by JohnnyFlies99 [07/7/07 08:29:13 PM] |
If it was, you would see significant blade buffett
ing (up and down), hear some nasty noise, see the
blades auto-rotating, and probably see the camera
pointed at the ground as the cameraman runs away.
No tricks here, but, technically, yes - stop fram
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| 89) by JohnnyFlies99 [07/7/07 08:29:42 PM] |
stop frame animation - though not intended. Pleas
e put this to rest, and consider each other's view
point. Some of you might have had the good fortun
e to see this demonstated in a classroom - no reas
on to get on those who haven't. For those of you
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| 90) by JohnnyFlies99 [07/7/07 08:30:09 PM] |
For those of you who haven't - believe the magic o
f timing. It looks damn crazy, but, well, that's j
ust the way it works. It's not so much a physics
or engineering thing, just visual "harmonics.
" If you want to be impressed with something
, be impre
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| 91) by JohnnyFlies99 [07/7/07 08:30:30 PM] |
be impressed with something, be impressed with the
engineering that made so much power so controllab
le. Cheers, Johnny
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| 92) by JohnnyFlies99 [07/7/07 08:39:11 PM] |
be impressed with something, be impressed with the
engineering that made so much power so controllab
le. Cheers, Johnny
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| 93) by atallperson [07/7/07 10:06:26 PM] |
Its fuckin fake..duhh..just look at it |
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| 94) by JoeyFuquit [07/17/07 10:14:20 PM] |
Notice you never see the ground. This video was sh
ot from another helicopter while the one in frame
does a stall exercise from high altitude. Standard
military training. You may all now die in a fire,
goodnight.
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| 95) by cjc3usa [07/20/07 08:05:07 AM] |
its me toy helo |
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| 96) by kevin [07/23/07 05:51:40 PM] |
fake
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| 97) by kevin [07/23/07 05:52:11 PM] |
fake |
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| 98) by kevin [07/23/07 05:52:32 PM] |
fake |
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| 99) by donkey5 [08/1/07 03:47:48 PM] |
just look on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-2
4 you retards, course the blades are rotating...ha
haha fake, i love it how people shout that at anyt
hing their small brains can't work out!!
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| 100) by zorro [08/14/07 11:40:25 AM] |
Most of you are total morons.
The answer is: SHUT
TER SPEED not FPS.
The FPS is 29.97 like all NTSC
video. Shutter=how fast the camera takes single
pictures. If it syncs up with the rotation rate it
will look solid. This has nothing to do with the
frame rate. It also has nothing to do with the tur
bine engines you tards.
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| 101) by aquafight [08/21/07 05:43:15 AM] |
if there where propellers we would see a bright li
ght coming off. also, if the helicopter was freefa
lling the camera man would have ran away since he
is right below. also, the tail rotor must compensa
te for something otherwise the aircraft spins. its
the rate of the camera of course.
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| 102) by aquafight [08/21/07 05:50:09 AM] |
M.T. what you see in the picture that looks like a
jet turbine is probably an exhaust.
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| 103) by aquafight [08/21/07 05:50:47 AM] |
also bear in mind that if the 'jet turbine' was to
produce lift it would have to be pointed downward
s.
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| 104) by aquafight [08/21/07 05:58:53 AM] |
tkilljoy i agree with you on everything except on
e detail. the bernoulli effect is not what produce
s lift in a wing and im surprised you dont know th
is.
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| 105) by Mr. Destructo [08/22/07 12:13:39 PM] |
Yyeess!! ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTH!! |
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| 106) by saint_andrew [08/23/07 09:26:55 AM] |
Damn Dr.Destructo beat me to the coveted 106th pos
ition gonna shoot myself now! Oh yeah and its a mo
del helicopter on a piece of string. This video wa
s actually taken from some North Korean propergand
a trying to convince the world they have military
technology!
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| 107) by 146thAES [08/28/07 12:20:24 AM] |
THERE IS ONE PROBLEM with the camera theory, it ca
n be done, but as you all saw the helicopter clibs
in the video, therefore it requires to put out mo
re rotations for thrust, changing the rotor rmp= c
haging fps on camera, if this was done the tail ro
tor would appear to be revolving slower, which it
doesnt, i believe they were showing off the turbin
e capabilities, and the only reason the tail rotor
was moving so slow is because it didnt have to co
unter-act the rotation of the main rotor, plus you
can see the main rotor move a little bit back and
forth when it banked left and right
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| 108) by 146thAES [08/28/07 12:22:59 AM] |
which would be impossible since the rotor doesnt r
everce directions just because the helicopter turn
s
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| 109) by Mathias [09/3/07 09:07:13 AM] |
wooho i'm the last. lol |
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| 110) by JimmyRogers [09/16/07 09:29:04 PM] |
no you're not......cockaessss |
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| 111) by cohaagen * [09/18/07 08:51:58 AM] |
Just spoke to the mrs who has a degree in Animatio
n and she knows quite a bit about film making and
how cameras work and fps etc.
Ever wondered w
hy the spokes on motorbikes seem to slow down to a
n eventual halt or seem to go backwards? It's the
same for this. Whenever revolutions match the FP
S of the camera, they appear to stand still.
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| 112) by mddoyle [09/18/07 06:52:28 PM] |
I think it has something to do with the ratio of m
ass/velocity in pudding. Chocolate pudding, I imag
ine, or maybe butterscotch.
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| 113) by Spike * [09/20/07 07:18:09 PM] |
MT, you need to tell your mom to change your diape
r. You're alfully cranky.
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| 114) by Laurie * [09/23/07 04:43:50 AM] |
or its just a toy helicoptor on a string? anyone t
hought of that
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| 115) by please * [09/23/07 06:26:55 PM] |
it's an attack helicopter with turbine engines for
propulsion and the rotor provides lift. If the ro
tor is not in use the turbine can be used for lift
all the lift is provided by the turbine engine in
this video
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| 116) by [Unreg.][Unreg.][Unreg.] * [09/24/07 03:52:48 AM] |
HMMMMM... Blades not spinning. this helicopter is
not worth 980$
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| 117) by [unreg] jjlockers * [09/27/07 07:29:20 AM] |
genius..
best argument ever...
definately turbin
es... te he
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| 118) by Anonymous * [09/27/07 07:51:02 PM] |
its howdy doody time! |
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| 119) by MadDavin * [09/28/07 12:04:49 PM] |
YOU ARE ALL WRONG!!!! IF YOU PAUSE IT AT THE RIGHT
TIME, YOU'LL SEE IT IS A FUCKING MODEL COPTER....
FAKE PROBABLY WITH FISHING LINE....BUT REAL SOUNDS
OF A COPTER!!!....GEEEZ!
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| 120) by never going away * [09/30/07 12:28:23 PM] |
This video will be on the top rated for eternity
:D
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| 121) by Absolute Vengeance * [10/1/07 01:55:43 PM] |
you are all morons. Obviously Chris Angle was the
re having sex with various men who so happened to
be helicopter pilots. Mystery solved, geez.
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| 122) by Absolute Vengeance * [10/1/07 01:57:02 PM] |
you are all morons. Obviously Chris Angle was the
re having sex with various men who so happened to
be helicopter pilots. Mystery solved, geez.
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| 123) by dude * [10/3/07 08:59:56 AM] |
you can hear the blades moving!!!! the frame rate
is in sync with the movement off the blades!!!
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| 124) by DAAAAH1 * [10/5/07 08:23:53 PM] |
What helicopter? HUH! |
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| 125) by Actual Physicist * [10/13/07 10:07:37 PM] |
Wow, M.T. has about the intelligence of... a rock.
I bet he's a conspiracy theorist, too.
They're
Not Wings, they're Pylons. They're intended for l
ifting, not stability, though they do serve that p
urpose to an extent (you can still build helos wit
hout them).
The Jet Turbine is for HIGH SPEED F
LIGHT. It Points to the BACK, to make the helo mov
e FORWARD. All of the LIFT is provided by the MAIN
ROTOR, hence you only hear the ROTOR in the video
, Not the Jet Turbine (it's just hovering)
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| 126) by lord spidey[Unreg.] * [10/14/07 02:29:49 PM] |
come on reading this made me feel sad for the inte
rnet some of these comments were so stupid i did n
ot even understand why someone in there right mind
would think that
cmon you guys i'm a 15 year o
ld kid sitting at his computer this isn't rocket s
cience here if the rotor makes a full turn for eve
ry image the camera captures the rotor turns a fu
ll circle [i suppose some of you don't even unders
tand that film and video are composed of many imag
es changed at a rapid succession to make the illus
ion of movement]
anyways if the camera has a fa
st shutter speed to prevent too much blur (cause h
elicopter blades move very very fast at the tip of
the blade)
of the cameras capture rate is in syn
c with the rotors revolutions per seconds it will
show the rotor blades as they are not moving becau
se for every image the rotor does one EXACT revolu
tion this makes the blades look still on the video
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| 127) by lord spidey [Unreg.] * [10/14/07 02:43:17 PM] |
i am a conspiracy theorist im not going to get int
o a big argument here but i believe that the 911 w
ere dmolished with explosive places at key places
in the cental structure
many conspiracy theor
ist are people with diplomas and who think CRITICA
LLY and form there own opinions on what they they
have seen heard the truth is there if you analyze
the data and for some odd reason i don't trust peo
ple on the internet who say
IM A REAL PHYSICIS
T you don't need to be a goddamn physicist to figu
re this out and if you believe you are one because
you realized that what half the people are saying
here is utter bullshit you are further away
fro
m being a physicist than me
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| 128) by Cunjo * [10/14/07 09:53:29 PM] |
Spidey, shut up before you hurt yourself. |
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| 129) by ME * [10/19/07 07:10:16 AM] |
i love the dumbasses saying that the jet turbines
are making it fly. yea they are turbines but they
provid thrust forward to make the heli go faster.
they don't give it lift, if they did why would h
elicopters have props?
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| 130) by Matt * [10/24/07 08:33:50 AM] |
If this thread proves anything, it's that there ne
eds to be an IQ assessment before people are allow
ed onto the internet.
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| 131) by Valrin * [10/26/07 06:05:25 PM] |
Well, MadDavin, it's good know that I'm not the on
ly person on the 'net that isn't a total sucker!
It's a model, not a real helo. The sounds are pro
bably comming from something off camera.
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| 132) by 4 the sake of arguement [Unreg] * [10/27/07 03:44:16 PM] |
I totally agree with the theory that the helicopte
r's blades are spinning in sync with the speed of
the camera. Cohaagen's comment about the rotors sp
inning backwards during the turn is true, though.
You can see it if you look closely. BUT... if you
remember looking at a fast car's wheels, they look
like they spin backwards, at different speeds. Th
e rotor of the helicopter changing speed slightly
in the turn make the rotors look like they turn in
slightly in the opposite direction, then turn bac
k.
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| 133) by chinook jockey * [10/29/07 05:54:17 PM] |
to all you dumb arses out there
the gas turbine e
ngines produce shaft horse power sent through a ge
arbox on the front of the engine deriving power fr
om the free power turbine right at the back of the
engine imagine two sets of fans(like your desk on
es) joined by a shaft the front fan is bigger and
runs cool the back one is smaller and runs hot.the
y are directly coupled running inside this shaft i
s another shaft with a very efficient turbine on t
he rear and a gearbox fitted with a sprag clutch(
free wheeling unit) to the front which via yet ano
ther shaft drives another gearbox diff unit which
transfers the drive through 90 degrees and reduces
the speed
the thrust produced by the jet engine
drives the turbine and produces NO thrust otherwis
e they could NOT hover when using full power on a
heavy lift according to the dumbarses on here it w
ould move forward not recommended when trying to p
lace a 10 ton container on a ships rear deck in a
rolling sea
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| 134) by Anonymous * [10/29/07 06:27:13 PM] |
me (unreg) knows shit about helicopters
actual ph
ysicist (unreg)(maybe he should rename himself act
ually STUPID ),is in the same league as is please(
unreg)
and best one 146thaes is totally devoid of
any aeronautical brains as he says that the rpm r
ate is changed to produce the thrust
totally wron
g you increase the fuelling to give you the same R
PM as you increase POWER by altering the pitch of
the blades thereby increasing the amount of work t
hey do and as every scientist/engineer knows if yo
u increase the amount of work done then you consum
e MORE energy i.e. the extra fuel.
some helicopte
rs now can use the engines to vector the thrust to
aid stability power climbing ability BUT the one
shown is not of this type.also the speed of any he
licopter is limited by the size and speed of its r
otors if they get near supersonic kiss you arse go
odbye so lord spidey is right about the blades fre
eze frame effect.
there are certain discrepancies
in the video especially the sound of the engines
to what the helicopter is doing but maybe down to
bad mic on camera but as to the model theorists th
e wheels certainly retract in a very smooth fashio
n so unless it was a powered model and extremely g
ood camera work I would say it is the real thing a
s to the frequency anomaly ever seen a car wheel m
oving under lights at night just like a camera fp
s the hertz at which the light works can cause thi
s anomaly
AND MY FINAL COMMENT TO ALL YOU SPA
MS OUT THERE GOOD JOB IT IS NOT A USof ficken A HE
LICOPTER OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE SHOOTING THE CROWD.
IN THE FIRST GULF WAR THE AMERICANS KILLED MORE F
RIENDLIES THAN ENEMIES
NICE ONE NORTH CAROLINA DI
CK HEAD NATIONAL GUARD PILOT PAINTING BLUE TANKS I
N THE SHAPE OF A WARRIOR (THATS A BRITISH ARMOURED
VEHICLE ON YOUR A10 I WILL DECK YOU AGAIN ANYTIME
COUSIN BOB
oh and reprogramme your software to
spell English correctly there is NO such thing as
american English
THERE IS ENGLISH AND THAT'S IT
WE INVENTED IT SO DON'T TRY AND ALTER IT BEACUASE
YOU CAN'T SPELL
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| 135) by Anonymous * [10/29/07 06:29:04 PM] |
Yes because was spelt wrongly to emphasise the poi
nt
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| 136) by Anonymous * [10/30/07 04:21:11 PM] |
Aliasing..simple as |
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| 137) by OkhamsRazor * [11/2/07 02:21:35 PM] |
It is indeed the frame rate of the video matching
the rotational rate of the blades. The key is the
sound from the video (sure, it could have been du
bbed, but why?) It is exactly the sound you would
expect to hear from large rotor blades beating the
air.
It is NOT the exhaust from the turbines
keeping it up. The primary use of the turbines i
s to TURN THE ROTORS. The tail rotor also confirm
s the frame rate hypothesis. In order to exucute t
urns, the rotor has to adjust faster or slower to
overcome or work with the torque of the main rotor
blades on the airframe. Thus, while the tail rot
or is nearly in sync, it must continually change i
t's rate of rotation to keep the bird steady or ex
ecute a turn.
Besides, if it wear freefall, d
o you really think the videographer would pass on
showing you the impact and carnage in favor of thi
s interesting but uneventful footage?
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| 138) by [Unreg.] * [11/4/07 06:41:41 AM] |
How can you say the trick is on camera FPS and rot
or RPM and sleep so pacefully? I don't think that
rotor RPM stays so perfectly synch'ed with the cam
era to produce this neat effect. I'm not a copter
expert, but I don't think cameras and copters are
so accurate to mantain this trick over all the vid
eo, given that camera moves its viewpoint, there's
wind, etc... all that should make the copter and
camera be out of sync.
Although, haven't you tune
d guitar strings? When you play the same note on t
wo strings, if there's 1Hz of difference you can f
eel the vibrations due of this out of sync.
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| 139) by bxr225 * [11/5/07 03:49:15 PM] |
wow there are alot of dumb ass kids like that dieg
o kid and joeljoel i agree with the frame rate dis
cussion only would make sense to a person with com
mon sense.
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| 140) by abadubidaba * [11/8/07 06:41:31 PM] |
i'll tell you how it flies. it has a string tied t
o the top with special effects sounds. and its a F
LIPPIN TOY~!!!!
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| 141) by Dumbasses * [11/9/07 07:19:30 PM] |
You guys are idiots..it's being towed by a helicop
ter above it. Those wings are not stabilizers, but
hold munitions. There are turbo jets, but those a
lone could not support the helicopter. Simply put,
there's a toe rope and it's being air lifted.
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| 142) by Unbelief * [11/12/07 08:51:05 PM] |
JohnnyFlies99 is the only person on this post who
sounds remotely like he knows what he's talking ab
out. The top rotor is turning with the rotation pr
ovided by the turbines. The rear rotor is turning
at a different speed because it's function is to c
ontrol the spin of the chopper. Did you notice the
decrease in rotor speed as the helo turned? That'
s because the rear rotor compensated less for the
rotation of the main rotor, thereby letting the ch
opper turn.
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| 143) by FFS * [11/13/07 12:32:48 PM] |
THIS SHIT IS HILARIOUS TO READ.. i am only like 3/
4's done and i dont ahev time... damn.... i wish i
coudl read it all.. you ppl have no lifes.... esp
ecially MT... YOU FUCKIGN DOUCHE TARD.... suck a c
ock my friend
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| 144) by flyboy * [11/15/07 08:56:36 PM] |
At best, helicopters do not fly, they beat the air
into submission. This helicopter has apparently
given up. Air Rules!
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| 145) by VegasRocks * [11/18/07 07:56:06 AM] |
Framerate match with main blade rotation. Look clo
sely at the main blades throuought the vid and the
y DO move, although not much, however this is enou
gh with the frame rate set on the video device to
show small changes in rpm as the pilot performs va
rious manuvers that would require a small rpm chan
ge in the main rotor.
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| 146) by DUMBFUCKS * [11/23/07 07:54:21 PM] |
OR!!! its a toy hanging in a string!!! |
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| 147) by Ace[Unreg.] * [11/26/07 08:11:16 PM] |
It's SOOOO obvious. Bush is behind it. What do you
expect from someone who p's on your back and tell
s you it's raining.
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| 148) by Odan * [11/29/07 08:33:48 AM] |
Its the frame rate of the camera.
Those wings on
ly hold missiles.
The jet engine look is the po
wer of the motor for the blades.
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| 149) by PFC Foster * [12/5/07 08:06:56 AM] |
just to clear it all up... that bird has jets jus
t behind the hold.. if you look carefully... right
as the bird is comin out of its huver ... towards
the middle of the video.. you see the jets fold
back.... they are under the stabalization wings..
. look closely
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| 150) by PFC Foster * [12/5/07 08:10:08 AM] |
and its not the landing gear... you kinda have to
know what to look for...but ull see it if you pay
attention
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| 151) by dolfanjim * [12/8/07 02:46:48 PM] |
OK. Look at the blades in the video. They are no
t completely stable. They move but so slow it is
hard to notice. When the heli climbs or decends th
e rotors spin in opposite directions.
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| 152) by Raychel is special * [12/9/07 02:23:07 AM] |
Originally posted by Raychel [06/21/07 06:27:53 PM
]
M.T. is correct, as I quote,"Military chop
pers like that one have jet engines on both sides
on the chassis that they can turn on in case of a
blade malfunction." My husband is in 101st Ai
rborne for the US Army and works on these things f
or a living,
Are you kidding? Your husband, w
ho works for the U.S. Military, works on Russian m
ilitary aircraft? You're absolutely sure about tha
t?
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| 153) by Unreg * [12/11/07 01:11:41 AM] |
Fools! It is obvious the helicopter is in water!
It's being swirled around by the current! That's
why there is a school of fish that appears briefly
in the lower right hand corner.
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| 154) by Unreg * [12/11/07 01:12:10 AM] |
Fools! It is obvious the helicopter is in water!
It's being swirled around by the current! That's
why there is a school of fish that appears briefly
in the lower right hand corner.
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| 155) by frozn1 * [12/11/07 11:17:35 AM] |
No wonder this country is in such bad shape. This
is a Russian helicopter, like the Afghan's destroy
ed with CIA supplied shoulder launched missiles. W
hy did the Berlin wall fall and USSR collapse? Do
you think they Russians have been sitting around c
ruising the Internet since their humiliation. They
have had a well funded psy corp since the 50's. I
ts pretty obvious that since their defeat at the h
ands of Bin Laden they have applied what they lear
ned about levitation to aviation. Light objects ha
ve been a done deal for decades. Putin has gotten
all feisty in the last few months just because? H
e knows he has the upper hand now with helicopter
gunships powered by brain waves. See the flashes o
f light periodical coming out of the Hind? just re
flections? I think not.
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| 156) by unreg * [12/17/07 12:15:28 AM] |
mt your a idiot every one knows its a hind no the
jet on sides cant lift it at angle its flying and
wings on sides or for weapons and for god sakes ac
cept you lost like a man
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| 157) by Yoda * [12/19/07 12:32:04 AM] |
I see that only a couple of you can see the truth.
This is why so many of you will fail.
You mus
t use the energy of all that surrounds you, let go
your feelings...
The force is strong in this o
ne.
Do or do not, there is no try!
Its a Jed
i Levitation trick!
Hahahahahahaha
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| 158) by Mighty Smiter [Unreg.] * [12/23/07 11:28:55 AM] |
joeljoeljoel some choppers have wings, armie ones
do to hold their rockets. and plus that chopper is
a model and it is put infront of a background, du
hbrains.
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| 159) by [Unreg.] ScubaUSAF * [12/24/07 03:37:03 AM] |
Wow that's cool...I work on the MH-53 Pave low and
i got video like this once...yeah it's a match wi
th shutterspeed/refresh rate. And i knwo this has
already been addressed, but the turbine engines ar
e connected to shafts that connect to a gear box t
hat turns the main rotor, and the turbines don't c
reat enough thrust to PUSH the choper forward much
less creat any type of LIFT thrus DOES NOT = Lift
...two separate things poeple. anyways, again it's
a cool effect.
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| 160) by ABC * [12/29/07 10:39:02 PM] |
I just feel bad for the majority of the people on
this comment board that made dumb ass comments.
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| 161) by IMNOTUNREGISTERED [Unreg.] * [12/30/07 07:12:38 AM] |
FUCK SQUIRRLES! |
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| 162) by n00buler89 * [01/3/08 10:13:05 AM] |
Wow. 161 comments. |
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| 163) by GWBush * [01/7/08 09:07:28 AM] |
Y'all are useless Scientists! This thing came stra
ight outta Area51! Thats it.
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| 164) by Yoda * [01/13/08 08:04:06 AM] |
penis i like |
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| 165) by fisisist * [01/16/08 08:31:13 AM] |
must be a new stealth technology. i think the UN h
elicopers have those.
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| 166) by mel * [01/19/08 10:44:59 PM] |
It is being carried by a chinook heli. |
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| 167) by DV8 [Unreg] * [01/24/08 04:42:40 PM] |
Wow, some people come up with wild stuff. Im in th
e military. The Helo has turbine engines yes, but
they just exhaust the engines. The dont rotate dow
n to allow lift(like a harrier) . Harrier?? yeah r
ight. Thats really funny. Its the frame rate. Easi
ly adjustable with a good Video camera.
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| 168) by reg * [01/27/08 03:25:16 AM] |
its being lifted by a diff. helo |
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| 169) by chuckles [01/27/08 01:01:08 PM] |
Dv8 you couldent be more wrong.... I am A union ca
mera man. I shoot blockbusters all year. Theres no
way its the frame rate first of all. video camera
s dont shoot multiple frame rates only one dose. I
ts called the Soney XD and i doubt that was that c
amera due to the shity resalution of the clip. plu
s its a 50,000 camera haha frame rate
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| 170) by chuckles [01/27/08 01:05:45 PM] |
Unless it was film but like i said the color cards
dont match i have compared. This was not shot on
film. But even if it was shot on film camera with
a vaerable framefate ramping attachment. These peo
ple dont have the money for the DI prosess. And th
ats the begining i can keep going. All i have to s
ay is that it had to do with the wind or the air c
raft.
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| 171) by chuckles [01/27/08 01:07:53 PM] |
NOT THE CAMERA |
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| 172) by Some guy * [01/30/08 06:56:45 PM] |
its magic, harry potter is casting a spell on it |
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| 173) by Anonymous * [02/5/08 11:42:56 AM] |
this is simple.. they are controlling the speed of
the propellor .. if you look at a ceiling fan spi
nning up at one point it looks still this is the s
ame effect it looks as if its not moving but its j
ust moving at such a high speed that it seems to b
e stationary
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| 174) by usaf_helicopter_crewchief * [02/17/08 12:52:46 AM] |
you people are retarded (well some of you)
the
wings are part of the weapons system, it not a vto
l jet, they cant manuver like that, and the blades
bend up cuz there lifting the entire weigt of the
airframe
a camera takes so many still pictures
per second (usually like 24 i think) when you wan
tch it back they play so fast they appear to move.
kinda like a flipbook cartoon. on this it just so
happens that the rpm of the rotor is causing a bl
ade to appear in the same place every time... they
are spinning, i promise
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| 175) by jesus * [02/20/08 02:40:21 PM] |
Jesus Christ! are Americans really that stupid????
How did you guys out there thinking its nothing t
o do with the frame rate get on the internet in th
e first place? I think someone needs to speak to y
our supervisors!!!
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| 176) by [bob] * [02/23/08 04:18:00 AM] |
its because a camera takes 24 pictures a second an
d that propeller is moving faster than the camera
can see
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| 177) by Tom * [02/23/08 10:56:06 PM] |
OK first of all I can't believe how many comments
there are on this. But my two cents is this... He
licopters do not increase rotor speed for rising a
nd falling. This is accomplished by changing the
pitch of the blades using the collective control t
o the pilot's left. Yes, throttle is increased in
order to climb, but this is to counteract the ten
dency of the blades to slow down when the pitch is
increased. The rotor speed remains constant. So
the frame rate or shutter speed relative to rotor
speed theory holds water. The Tail rotor, which p
erforms rudder functions, is rotating at a differe
nt (and much higher) speed causing it to appear to
advance slowly. If you were able to see backgrou
nd with which you were familiar, like people or ca
rs, they would appear to be moving in very slow mo
tion because the film speed is so ridiculously fas
t. .
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| 178) by Tom * [02/23/08 11:01:58 PM] |
One other thing... the weapons pods on the sides o
f the airframe may provide a small percentage of t
his craft's lift IN FORWARD MOTION, however it wou
ld have to be moving forward very fast and the eff
ect would be minimal. The jet engines on these cr
aft drive the rotors and the exhaust is used for s
econdary forward thrust. However, when an helicopt
er is driven forward by an engine, as in the case
of the class of helos called autogyros, the rotors
ROTATE to keep it in the air. It is absolutely i
mpossible for this particular aircraft to hover wi
thout it's rotor turning. This is simply a delibe
rate, and very cunning, optical trick perpetrated
using a camera.
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| 179) by joeramsayramsay * [03/1/08 09:06:42 AM] |
sheesh, how did they get away with that?
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| 180) by doughnuts!! * [03/3/08 06:39:30 PM] |
i'm not even gonna try to answer this question. i
ll find out another way.
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| 181) by TekHousE * [03/15/08 05:09:26 AM] |
This is real..heres another video of it..its the c
amera in sync..
http://video.google.com/videoplay
?docid=-7076349679064042453
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| 182) by DocRosa [03/16/08 11:58:02 PM] |
SEE... I TOLD YOU SO!!!
NOW CAN WE FINALLY ALL
GO TO BED???
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| 183) by stupidmonkey6842 * [03/17/08 12:13:35 PM] |
creepy |
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| 184) by Ololol. * [03/18/08 03:30:20 AM] |
It's not the wings, or side rotor, or the thrust,
as about 50% of people said its the camera syncing
with the speed of the blades. If it was the addit
ional thrust it would be a completely different no
ise.
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| 185) by james * [03/25/08 05:16:42 AM] |
maybe its a toy helicopter zoomed in and there is
a helicopter in the distance. It might be an optic
al illusion.
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| 186) by sshuggi * [03/27/08 12:54:29 PM] |
Wow, so many posts, I think I'll add my opinion. F
irst off, it's not the camera fps. As you can see,
the plane is pitching and rolling, climbing and f
alling; all will cause the planes blades to move i
n aspects to camera fps. If you've ever looked out
the window at another cars rims while driving, th
ey may appear to be still, and when they speed-up
a little, the rims will start to actually move. Th
at's because your eyes have a refresh rate, just l
ike cameras have a fps rate. So, unless the camera
can fluctuate it's fps to the changing rpm of the
helicopter, this idea wont work, and judging by t
he video quality, it wasn't that fancy of a camera
.
Also, it's not in free fall, because the video
is being taken from another helicopter (that's th
at fap fap fap sound) which would also have to be
in free fall to keep-up with it. Plus, you'd be he
aring about fifteen-hundred alarms going off becau
se you're about to die in a falling metal death tr
ap.
Disproving another point, it's not flying be
cause of those missile armaments being wing-shaped
. to make any lift they would have to be moving. Y
ou can't make a wing, set it on a table and expect
it to start hovering.
I would have to say this
was either one of two things, fake or M.T.'s sugge
stion of emergency systems. It could be held-up by
another helicopter attached with a cable, althoug
h I bet that would break many federal laws and/or
break the two aircraft.
This seems to be a test
of the emergency semi-harrier jet propulsion, and
someone that works at the base thought it would be
neat to stump hundreds of people online.
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| 187) by Daddy [04/3/08 07:37:11 AM] |
It´s cute flying this helicopter |
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| 188) by Anonymous * [04/6/08 10:36:17 AM] |
clearly none of you know about mtf's. in the early
sixties it was discovered in south peru a creatur
e most know as fairies. with the right amount of t
eamwork, mtf's, (or military trained fairies) can
actually maintain and control the weight of a heli
copter. pshhh.
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| 189) by originaltexan * [04/25/08 06:15:57 AM] |
I saw Harry Blackwell do this on the old Dean Mart
in Show.
There's a helicopter above it transpor
tinging it. If you look close against the clouds a
bove it you can occasionally see the tethers. And,
you can hear the blades / wash of the rotors.
How do you think these things get moved somewhere
for repairs?
Man, you people are dense!
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| 190) by originaltexan * [04/25/08 06:16:54 AM] |
I saw Harry Blackwell do this on the old Dean Mart
in Show.
There's a helicopter above it transpor
tinging it. If you look close against the clouds a
bove it you can occasionally see the tethers. And,
you can hear the blades / wash of the rotors.
How do you think these things get moved somewhere
for repairs?
Man, you people are dense!
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| 191) by area51 * [04/28/08 07:01:00 AM] |
there's only one explanation for this... it's alie
ns
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| 192) by area51 * [04/28/08 07:03:39 AM] |
there's only one explanation for this... it's alie
ns
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| 193) by McLovin69 * [04/28/08 07:13:57 AM] |
when i was looking at this and i read this comment
by area 51, i noticed there was any alien in the
passengers seat. you have to look real real close
and you will see that there is a transparent figur
e in the passengers seat. the world will end in 20
12. Also, my brother works at nasa and there have
been recent studies on this video, that clearly sh
ow a figure in the helicopter. i will say it again
the world will be taken over by aliens in 2012, i
ts a known fact.
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| 194) by [Unreg] A physics teacher * [04/29/08 10:13:08 AM] |
It's framerate... dead simple effect and there's s
light blurring around the blades caused by the bla
des bouncing up and down out of sync with the vid.
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| 195) by Anonymous * [05/8/08 04:48:41 PM] |
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| 196) by Anonymous * [05/8/08 04:49:06 PM] |
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| 197) by Anonymous * [05/8/08 04:49:48 PM] |
48848540609569598 |
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| 198) by Anonymous * [05/8/08 04:50:52 PM] |
i did this |
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| 199) by Anonymous * [05/8/08 04:51:20 PM] |
i did this to |
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| 200) by Anonymous * [05/8/08 04:53:21 PM] |
I did this to get to 100th commenter
suck whateve
r u want
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| 201) by Anonymous * [05/8/08 04:54:10 PM] |
sry 200th commenter |
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| 202) by darklegend [05/18/08 11:10:47 AM] |
it is not a helicopter, it's AN ALIEN!!!!!!!! |
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| 203) by [Unreg.] * [05/22/08 06:50:54 PM] |
Just a thought. The helicopter appears to have ve
ry little movement forwards or backwards. This me
ans that the "wings" would not produce m
uch lift.
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| 204) by pdxstarflyer * [05/28/08 07:18:09 AM] |
who said wings don't produce their lift from Berno
ulli's principle? It's true that main rotor speed
remains constant. It's rotor blade pitch that in
creases or decreases to climb or decend. The resu
ltant change in torque is what the tail rotor is f
or. And jet propulsion is not only not necessary
on helicopters, it's deadly. Forward jet thrust wo
uld only cause the advancing blades to compress th
e air (rendering them ineffective) and the retreat
ing blades to stall. Is anyone here actually a hel
icopter pilot? geez
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| 205) by Jack Maclain * [07/21/08 01:08:22 AM] |
idiots the Mi-24 can use its turbines to hover or
give partial lift. The blades also can be tilted t
o act like a planes wings giving lift.
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| 206) by Unreg* Kosmic Kev * [08/21/08 06:36:49 PM] |
It is possible to fly a helicopter without the eng
ine.
Say for example the helicopter is losing a
ltitude because the engine stops. There is no need
to waste more energy on trying to kick start the
rotor blades. You'll have to lower the helicopter'
s collective pitch to flatten the rotor. They will
now be spun by the wind that passes through them
as the helicopter falls. You can then use the rema
ining energy on adjusting the cyclic to maintain f
orward speed, all the while aiming for your landin
g zone.
As the ground nears, you'll have to pul
l back the cyclic in order to reduce forward speed
. This helps flare the helicopter. Seconds before
it touches the ground (about 6' feet from the grou
nd), you can stop the flare and keep the helicopte
r parallel to your landing area. Once you raise th
e collective, you simply use the potential energy
on the blades against gravity and allow the helico
pter to land safely.
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| 207) by ummm * [11/28/08 06:11:00 PM] |
That's great, buuutt doesn't explain the video muc
h...
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| 208) by ZeroEffect * [12/6/08 02:45:12 PM] |
OMG, your all retarded. The helo sound heard is a
sound track. What your seeing is a model suspended
from cable so thin it doesnt get picked up from b
y the camera. theres a reason the angle of the vid
eo stays pretty consistent and the videographer ne
ver pans out to reveal anything around the copter
that would give away its scale. Trust me I do this
sort of lower budget stuff for a living and know
exactly what this is.
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| 209) by ---------- * * [12/6/08 07:30:29 PM] |
Seriously? Occam's razor you retards.
The simpl
est and most logical explanation is the fps soluti
on, in fact, I've seen this video many months ago
under the description that the blades were, in fac
t, matching the camera's fps to an extent.
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| 210) by ---------- * * [12/6/08 07:35:58 PM] |
shutter speed rather |
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| 211) by MNRaider * [03/26/09 05:44:14 AM] |
The Blades Lift & Control Diction of the Helic
opter, not Turbines - they only supply the power n
eeded to do so (no lift or forward thrust as in a
Harrier). The Stub-wings are for weapons & Fue
l Drop-Tanks not lifting the Aircraft - some chopp
er use them for their main landing gear housings/s
upport( Bell 22-B ) Hinds donot have thrust nozzle
s that rotate to lift or push aircraft forward. Th
e Blades appear to be Stationary due to Frame-rate
, the fup-fup sound is from the Main Rotor or Roto
rs as on the CH-$7 & Ch-47 Helicopters
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| 212) by Anonymous * [04/4/09 06:08:50 PM] |
You guys are all wrong. I know how this happens. I
t's because this helicopter is manipulated by the
propelling power of MAGIC! That's right! And a WIZ
ARD is magically controlling this helicopter from
far away! There's no WAY physics can explain this
stuff! It's got to be magic! Trust me on this, I K
NOW what I'm talking about. (Do I sound like anybo
dy around here?)
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| 213) by Ianchang * [04/4/09 06:09:27 PM] |
You guys are all wrong. I know how this happens. I
t's because this helicopter is manipulated by the
propelling power of MAGIC! That's right! And a WIZ
ARD is magically controlling this helicopter from
far away! There's no WAY physics can explain this
stuff! It's got to be magic! Trust me on this, I K
NOW what I'm talking about. (Do I sound like anybo
dy around here?)
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| 214) by Anonymous * [06/29/09 09:31:16 PM] |
im 214th!!! so goddamn close! ill get first one da
y. dont you worry.
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| 215) by Unreg * [07/26/09 01:16:27 PM] |
Gotta Go with Camera Frame Rate. ---You can here
the prop sound---Is Not in free-fall (watch clouds
in background)---Is not Gliding on still props or
wings because it Hovers at one point---Gotta be f
rame rate or something related to that.---Jet engi
nes in a copter are to turn the prop shaft, from w
hat I understand.
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| 216) by ME! * [07/28/09 07:35:58 PM] |
It's because the fps of the camera is the
same or a multible of the rpms of the helicopter.
The rotors really are spinning
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| 217) by Anonymous * [03/4/10 06:34:36 PM] |
Very simple. The digital camera sample rate is not
sufficient to capture the motion of the blades be
tween frames. The camera is most likely not sampli
ng at the same rate as the RPM, but more like to w
ithin an integer multiple of it..Like 3X or 4X. An
y slower, and the blades would appear to move back
wards. Old western movies have wagon wheels that l
ooked like they are rotating backwards..Wagon whee
l was too fast for cameras..This condition is call
ed aliasing!
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